Return-Path: Received: from fed1rmimpi05.cox.net ([70.169.32.74]) by fed1rmmtai109.cox.net (InterMail vM.8.00.01.00 201-2244-105-20090324) with ESMTP id <20100407172208.RGKQ27710.fed1rmmtai109.cox.net@fed1rmimpi05.cox.net> for ; Wed, 7 Apr 2010 13:22:08 -0400 Received: from c3.confirmedcc.com ([64.95.77.164]) by fed1rmimpi05.cox.net with IMP id 2hN71e00A3Yhjug05hN8Af; Wed, 07 Apr 2010 13:22:09 -0400 X-VR-Score: -50.00 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=gLSNPsJ1z0E1uky1Q/V6aIAL+XXpfVnUyz1CL/cBGRk= c=1 sm=1 a=eOjp5R4Wmh0A:10 a=Wajolswj7cQA:10 a=jG0V7cGflYeF29syVtzv0g==:17 a=3KUoxB9FAAAA:8 a=kviXuzpPAAAA:8 a=dBHVSD4JAAAA:8 a=wxt9qNYX5JkLEbTHibEA:9 a=6K7TO6odEMXLqxvmBOgA:7 a=kdKHhJUOQrpqiJzzZbBBWNO_xWgA:4 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=YbbSrWdHHMMA:10 a=5nvX73_a6YYA:10 a=UNHwldVzExMA:10 a=sgEm4A2zmLsA:10 a=4vB-4DCPJfMA:10 a=iNw7fFzJUkYA:10 a=dWy5pqu_rtaLaoyw:21 a=fqTQ9vDVg-sWO_4t:21 a=l6EDCX-fAAAA:8 a=FFF9EqpNnxgBi6teYdwA:9 a=XGppayt-_JQGrsULQGYA:7 a=vi3MIVI22B5mZDqSp95Sbwea3PcA:4 a=WnyKskEr44r9hRIo:21 a=GOiHBFaZr7Qx9tni:21 a=jG0V7cGflYeF29syVtzv0g==:117 X-CM-Score: 0.00 Received: from p2-jb581.ad.prodcc.net (unknown [10.252.0.101]) by c3.confirmedcc.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E113E9DD8E5 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 2010 13:22:06 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <1060707586.2081270660926923.JavaMail.ccas@p2-jb581.ad.prodcc.net> Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2010 13:22:06 -0400 (EDT) From: Sam Judie Reply-To: samjudie@cox.net To: samjudie@cox.net Subject: Scott Hedlind's Well-Written Response! KUDOs to Scott! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_195_459122215.1270660926914" X-Mailer: Roving Constant Contact 2009 (http://www.constantcontact.com) ------=_Part_195_459122215.1270660926914 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Scott's Response! Very Well Written! Kudos to Scott ! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ RiverLanding Home Owners! Check It Out! Scott's Response to my Newsletter! AWESOME JOB SCOTT! Very Well Written! YIPPEE! _________________________________________________________ Pool: Yes the pool is a big expense, but each director has a fiduciary and legal duty to maintain the common elements of your community until such time as that element is no longer a part of the community. It has been determined by your legal counsel that 67% of the River Landing owners must vote in favor of closing the pool. That is 221 owners who must vote to close the pool. Based on not only the informal poll that we did, but even the response to your own polls you had on your website, at best it was split about 50/50 as to whether or not owners wanted the pool closed. In addition, the number of owners that actually responded to all polls was less than 100 so it's does not appear that there is sufficient support to close the pool. I know and understand what you feel personally about the pool, but at this time the Board has a legal and fiduciary duty to maintain it. Website & Newsletter: Legally your board members are under no obligation to participate in a website or newsletter. Normally I have been generating a newsletter the last few years to mail with the semiannual statements which is always sent to the board members prior to mailing for their approval. I do not expect that they contribute to the newsletter, only that they approve it as its your community and I do not want to make a statement or send anything out that is not approved by the majority of Board members. Each director is a volunteer who already is doing more for the community than 97% of the other owners in the community. Many of them even give more time making sure the pool area is maintained in a clean and safe condition between board meetings. Again, they are not paid to do this or do they expect to get paid. They are simply doing it because they take pride in the River Landing community. Past experience has shown, that without their contributions the problems and vandalism would be much worse, meaning the cost of repairs would be much greater. As you can see, each Board members is already doing their part. I have to be honest here. It's unfair to expect them to contribute to your website or newsletter when they are already doing more than the other 322 members of your community are doing. It somewhat disturbs me to see that whenever one of your fellow board members does respond to one of your e-mails it goes directly to your website with a negative comment attached, such as the Board is not being transparent and you don't know why they are not responding to your e-mail. They reason they do not comment is because it most times goes straight to your website with a negative comment about the board still not being transparent and you cannot see why they won't all contribute comments. Your cannot have it both ways. You cannot expect your fellow board members to respond to an e-mail only to see it posted on a website with a comment about how the board is not being transparent and to scold the other board members who do not respond. This is why you have board meetings - to discuss the issues and make decisions on the workings of your community. Transparency: You comment a lot about transparency. There are no secrets to the actions the board members take. While Nevada Law requires they discuss delinquency and violations in closed session with that information to remain confidential, all other board actions are taken in an open session every month. The board members follow an agenda, discuss all items on the agenda, then vote and move on. Owners are properly notified of the meetings and are welcome to attend. They can make comments on the agenda items or general comments about the community. As you have seen for yourself, it's all out in the open. If an owner cannot make the meeting, they can ask for a copy of the minutes or recording. In fact, they can view them on your website. Other than mailing the minutes or sending a full recording to each owner (who probably would either not read them or listen to the recording and would be expensive), there is not much more that can be done to enlighten owners. Your community is doing a good job making the information available and meeting regularly to discuss the issues in your community that effect everyone. If owners don't take the time to keep track of what your board members are doing, but coming to meetings and/or requesting minutes, then that is on them. If there are owners who do not think the board members are serving your community they have a chance each year to run for the board themselves. As you know firsthand, you have now, and have had in the past owners serve on the board who are attempting to make the best decisions based on what is best for the community. While not everyone likes the decisions that are made, they do have the option to run and serve themselves. I really don't believe that you all can do any more than you are already doing. I believe what I am trying to say is, please give your fellow board members a break and stop hounding them to contribute to your website or newsletter. They are already serving the community in their own way and no one has the right to expect more of them then they are already giving. If you keep the pressure up for them to contribute, they are going to get frustrated and quit and you may end up with no volunteers. That would not be good for your community. Thanks, Scott Hedlind, CAM ________________________________________________________ Now Scott? This is the most you have ever written to us R/L Home Owners during your entire 'tenure' as our HOA Manager! Congratulations! And I was always well aware that any comments I made that were not very 'flattering' to yourself and my fellow Board Members would maybe....just maybe......finally elicit a response from you and our Board Members! FINALLY! Now? That we know you are more than capable? Could you please contribute to our Message Board? REGULARLY! It is TOTALLY FREE! Saving us R/L Home Owners $150 in Postage every time you mail us something? And since most R/L Home Owners are unable to attend our very lame HOA Meetings? At least they all can: "Have A Say In Their HOA" 24/7 - 365 Days a Year! Now.........if we could also get our Board Members to also participate? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Sam Judie 566-4181 811 Schooner Dr ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Forward email http://ui.constantcontact.com/sa/fwtf.jsp?m=1101394665490&ea=samjudie@cox.net&a=1103280469495&id=preview This email was sent to samjudie@cox.net by samjudie@cox.net. 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Pool: Yes the pool is a big expense, but each directo= r has a fiduciary and legal duty to maintain the common elements of your co= mmunity until such time as that element is no longer a part of the communit= y. It has been determined by your legal counsel that 67% of the River Landi= ng owners must vote in favor of closing the pool. That is 221 owners who mu= st vote to close the pool. Based on not only the informal poll that we did,= but even the response to your own polls you had on your website, at best i= t was split about 50/50 as to whether or not owners wanted the pool closed.= In addition, the number of owners that actually responded to all polls was= less than 100 so it's does not appear that there is sufficient support to = close the pool. I know and understand what you feel personally about the po= ol, but at this time the Board has a legal and fiduciary duty to maintain i= t.
Website & Newsletter: Legally your board members are under no oblig= ation to participate in a website or newsletter. Normally I have been gener= ating a newsletter the last few years to mail with the semiannual statement= s which is always sent to the board members prior to mailing for their appr= oval. I do not expect that they contribute to the newsletter, only that the= y approve it as its your community and I do not want to make a statement or= send anything out that is not approved by the majority of Board members.&n= bsp;Each director is a volunteer who already is doing more for the communit= y than 97% of the other owners in the community. Many of them even give mor= e time making sure the pool area is maintained in a clean and safe conditio= n between board meetings. Again, they are not paid to do this or do they ex= pect to get paid. They are simply doing it because they take pride in the R= iver Landing community. Past experience has shown, that without their contr= ibutions the problems and vandalism would be much worse, meaning the cost o= f repairs would be much greater. As you can see, each Board members is alre= ady doing their part. I have to be honest here. It's unfair to expect them = to contribute to your website or newsletter when they are already doing mor= e than the other 322 members of your community are doing. It somewhat distu= rbs me to see that whenever one of your fellow board members does respond t= o one of your e-mails it goes directly to your website with a negative comm= ent attached, such as the Board is not being transparent and you don't know= why they are not responding to your e-mail. They reason they do not commen= t is because it most times goes straight to your website with a negative co= mment about the board still not being transparent and you cannot see why th= ey won't all contribute comments. Your cannot have it both ways. You cannot= expect your fellow board members to respond to an e-mail only to see it po= sted on a website with a comment about how the board is not being transpare= nt and to scold the other board members who do not respond. This is why you= have board meetings - to discuss the issues and make decisions on the work= ings of your community.
Transparency: You comment a lot about transpa= rency. There are no secrets to the actions the board members take. While Ne= vada Law requires they discuss delinquency and violations in closed session= with that information to remain confidential, all other board actions are = taken in an open session every month. The board members follow an agenda, d= iscuss all items on the agenda, then vote and move on. Owners are properly = notified of the meetings and are welcome to attend. They can make comments = on the agenda items or general comments about the community. As you have se= en for yourself, it's all out in the open. If an owner cannot make the meet= ing, they can ask for a copy of the minutes or recording. In fact, they can= view them on your website. Other than mailing the minutes or sending a ful= l recording to each owner (who probably would either not read them or liste= n to the recording and would be expensive), there is not much more that can= be done to enlighten owners. Your community is doing a good job making the= information available and meeting regularly to discuss the issues in your = community that effect everyone. If owners don't take the time to keep track= of what your board members are doing, but coming to meetings and/or reques= ting minutes, then that is on them. If there are owners who do not think th= e board members are serving your community they have a chance each year to = run for the board themselves. As you know firsthand, you have now, and have= had in the past owners serve on the board who are attempting to make the b= est decisions based on what is best for the community. While not everyone l= ikes the decisions that are made, they do have the option to run and serve = themselves. I really don't believe that you all can do any more than you ar= e already doing.
I believe what I am trying to say is, please give you= r fellow board members a break and stop hounding them to contribute to your= website or newsletter. They are already serving the community in their own= way and no one has the right to expect more of them then they are already = giving. If you keep the pressure up for them to contribute, they are g= oing to get frustrated and quit and you may end up with no volunteers. That= would not be good for your community.
Thanks,
Scott Hedlind, CAM=
 
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Now Scott?  This is the most you have ever written to= us R/L Home Owners during your entire 'tenure' as our HOA Manager!  C= ongratulations!
 
 
And I was= always well aware that any comments I made that were not very 'flattering'= to yourself and my fellow Board Members would maybe....just maybe......fin= ally elicit a response from you and our Board Members!
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Now? = ; That we know you are more than capable?  Could you please contribute= to our Message Board?  REGULARLY!
It is TOT= ALLY FREE! 
Saving us= R/L Home Owners $150 in Postage every time you mail us something?
And since= most R/L Home Owners are unable to attend our very lame HOA Meetings?
At least = they all can:
"Have A S= ay In Their HOA"
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